Thursday, 02 February 2012 22:12

Creationism disrespects science, religion

By Patrick Mitchell, Electrical engineering graduate student
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Liberal interpretations of Bible, while progressive, still go against faith

In Kentucky, Answers in Genesis received a $43 million-dollar tax break to help foster construction of their "Ark Experience" addition to its "Creationism Museum." This comes along with a proposed 6.4 percent cut to higher education, 2.2 percent cut to police and cuts across the board in other areas of the state budget.

Patrick_Mitchell001WEBjpgCreationism, or intelligent design, is the umbrella term coined by those that want the accounts of the Earth's beginnings given in Genesis taught in schools. They teach that the biblical flood occurred, that the world was repopulated through driftwood, that dinosaurs coexisted with humans and that evolution was not the primary method for the current diversity of life.

Answers in Genesis bases itself on a literal interpretation of the Bible, which they believe is "divinely inspired and inerrant throughout ... It is the supreme authority in everything it teaches."

This fundamentalist interpretation leads to things like the "Creation Museum," whose exhibits ignore the sum total of our scientific knowledge and encourage visitors to replace fact with faith. This mindset has helped foster a culture in our country that is opposite to scientific knowledge and is steadily losing its edge on scientific literacy in the world.

To echo Bill Nye, to not teach evolution to our young people is wrong. Yet, across the U.S., legislatures seek to overturn the precedent set by the Scopes trial. A New Hampshire bill seeks to teach the religious viewpoints of evolution's proponents. Rep. Jerry Bergevin, the author of the bill, said this of evolution:

"It's a worldview and it's godless. Atheism has been tried in various societies, and they've been pretty criminal domestically and internationally. The Soviet Union, Cuba, the Nazis, China today: They don't respect human rights."

A liberal interpretation of the Bible, while it allows for the teaching of truth in science, presents its own problem: What parts of the Bible are meant to be literally followed, and which are not? On what basis are the tales of Genesis meant to be allegorical and those of Solomon, Jesus, or Revelation, not? If God didn't know about creation, how does he know what's best for your life?

In this respect, I find more in common with those who tend to ignore more scripture. Those who do not see homosexuality as a sin, those who do not think of hell as literal, those who believe that Jesus' message was one of love and peace, and ignore his message of "I come not to bring peace, but a sword" (Matthew, 10:34). Why not be rid of the whole of religion, instead of just much of it, especially when you're a better person for ignoring the parts you disagree with anyway?

17 comments

  • Comment Link R. Knox Friday, 03 February 2012 05:02 posted by R. Knox

    You conclude that, in essence, all of us, to include yourself, are better people without religion. That's quite a statement to make! Do you have any evidence for that? As every pseudo-scientist, half-baked atheist demands, "can you PROVE that?" (and thus settling the argument in their own mind).

    Let's see; Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Jr., and Mother Teresa on the one hand. And Patrick Mitchell on the other. Who are the "better" people? Gee, that's a toughie!

    Patrick, you are obviously trying to purge yourself of your own religious upbringing. That sounds like a personal matter for you to work out. You ought not presume to implement that corrective for everyone else. Few things are more cringe-inducing that a street preacher - no matter what they're shouting.

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  • Comment Link John G Friday, 03 February 2012 10:00 posted by John G

    How does believing in a religion make someone a better person than someone who does not believe? Gandhi was a Hindu, MLK and Mother Teresa were Christians. In the best case scenario, at least one of the three was operating under a man made system of morality. They were all fantastically wonderful people, but attributing the good deeds of the one (possibly two) who believed in a man-made religion seems to confirm that humans are capable of being great people without any divine guidance.

    As for Patrick, I don't think that he is trying to purge himself of anything. Why would he? The promise of eternal life in heaven? Who would want to purge themself of that? He is simply looking at the eveidence that he sees and realizing that something doesn't add up. Everyone of course is free to come to their own conclusions, but I think Patrick has done well to give his thoughts publicly.

    Also, go Cocks...

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  • Comment Link Joseph Friday, 03 February 2012 10:02 posted by Joseph

    In the article,
    Patrick Mitchell asks:
    "What parts of the Bible are meant to be literally followed, and which are not?"

    Jesus answered that question when, praying to God, He said:
    "Sanctify them by the truth;your word is truth."
    John 17:17 (NIV 1984)
    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John17:17&version=NIV1984

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  • Comment Link R. Knox Friday, 03 February 2012 10:32 posted by R. Knox

    @John G

    You might have missed his essay last week when he proudly declared he stopped being a Christian a year ago. I think he is trying to purge himself of his religious upbrining. And that has led him to declare, "Why not be rid of the whole of religion, instead of just much of it . . ."

    @Patrick

    Your by line says you're a graduate student in engineering. What was your undergraduate degree in? I'm going to guess it was not theology, scripture, philosophy, or church history. Why don't you write some articles about engineering, since that seems to be your real area of expertise?

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  • Comment Link baba black sheep Friday, 03 February 2012 11:33 posted by baba black sheep

    R. Knox - Your "moral" Mother Teresa was a fraud and a charlatan. She actively promoted suffering at her missionaries of charity as some sick positive connection with God. She hung out and took photo op pics with thugs and dictators like "baby doc" Duvalier. Oh, and she pleaded for the Court's mercy of one Charles Keating, a Catholic who donated to the Missionaries of Charity and subsequently defrauded investors (many of their life savings) for billions. Mother T, consistent with her Christian duty to charity, refused to give back the money Keating donated to her while those defrauded investors suffered.

    But I guess it's easy to hold up sacred cows while neglecting your research to prove an already flawed and erroneous point.

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  • Comment Link R. Knox Friday, 03 February 2012 11:54 posted by R. Knox

    Black Sheep - you could have saved yourself some time and just posted the YouTube link to that very speech given by Christopher Hitchens where you lifted all your accusations from. Do you have any original thoughts?

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  • Comment Link R. Not Friday, 03 February 2012 12:03 posted by R. Not

    R. Nox it is funny how you say do you have any original thoughts? You argument is based off of every single Christian I have seen on the internet, but that is besides the point.

    What you did R.Nox by saying "Do you have any original thoughts?" and not furthering the debate is you giving up. You know you have nothing intelligent to say, so you back up and point fingers and start the name-calling or just try to distract people. Please refrain from your incompetence and continue the conversation. If you cannot continue it, then you have proved Patrick's point even more.

    Also btw, comparing Patrick, an average college student, to MLK and Ghandi is childish and quite frankly a little stupid. You pick an average person to the most famous people of a religion. Please again, learn how to conduct a real argument and stop being ignorant.

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  • Comment Link John G. Friday, 03 February 2012 12:04 posted by John G.

    @ R. Knox

    I did miss that essay, but I've just read it. I saw the part where he stopped being a christian, but I guess it didn't read as proud to me. And I still don't understand why you think he is trying to purge himself of his religious upbringing.

    Between the two articles what I understand he is saying is that his religion of birth tells him among other things that homosexuality is a sin of choice, dinosaurs existed at the same time as humans and that evolution is false, while science has told him that homosexuality is not a choice, dinosaurs were extinct long before the first humans existed and that evolution is true. If he decides that in all of these cases that he believes science, and therefore feels that the rest of the things religion tells him has lost all credibility, how is that him wanting to purge himself of his religous upbrining?

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  • Comment Link R. Knox Friday, 03 February 2012 12:17 posted by R. Knox

    Sounds to me like someone (R. Not, aka, Baba Black Sheep) got smoked out. You simply parrot what you hear from Hitch, and call that your argument.

    I'll leave it with two previous conclusions: Why don't you write some articles about engineering, since that seems to be your real area of expertise?

    AND

    Few things are more cringe-inducing that a street preacher - no matter what they're shouting.

    (Now to be followed by high-fives and chest beating from the atheists: "We won!" "Typical believer, can't argue!" "stupid," "Hate monger," etc., etc. etc)

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  • Comment Link baba black sheep Friday, 03 February 2012 12:26 posted by baba black sheep

    R Knox - You simply parrot what you hear from your preacher or Jesus of the Bible or whatever source your ideas happen to come from. I confess, it's actually quite hard, if not impossible, to come up with "original" ideas with regard to religion, seeing as how it's been argued for centuries. What matters is not how many people endorse an idea or who came up with it, but its validity and reasonableness.

    It was a nice try, but irrelevant to the argument at hand. If you'd like to get back to the real conversation, I invite you to make a relevant and valid argument. I did so by attacking one of your underlying assumptions - that Mother Teresa was, by your own ethical standards apparently - a bastion of morality.

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